Genjitsushugi Yuusha no Oukoku Saikenki
現実主義勇者の王国再建記
A Realist Hero's Kingdom Reconstruction Chronicle
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Volume 1: ISBN 978-4-86554-111-3
Volume 2:
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Web Novel Synopsis:
In a world where the
Demon King had taken over a fifth of the land. Souma Kazuya (Soma) was summoned
to that world as a hero, but the king took a liking to his rich country strong
army proposal and somehow handed him the throne. Soma, who had the throne
forced upon him, forewent adventure, and together with the talented companions
he gathered, went about his nation-building with his realism.
Translate together with Larvyde.
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Thai Language (ภาษาไทย)
Spanish Language
Spanish Language
Postwar Arc
Read this Arc in Light Novel Volume 3 & 4 at J-Novel Club
Enlightenment Arc
00 – Round Table (Kotatsu) Conference (Larvyde)
01 – A Tale of Two Cities E
(Larvyde)
01 – A Tale of Two Cities F
(Temporary Cover Chapter) (Larvyde)
01 – A Tale of Two Cities G
(Temporary Cover Chapter) (Larvyde)
Epilogue A – Invitation
Epilogue B – Departure
Star-Dragon Arc
00 – Naden Delal (TBA)
THE MAP
It should be a "Realist's" since it refers to a person being realistic and reforming a country (the title).
ReplyDeleteAnd yeah, all you need to do is add " 's " to the first word in the title to make it a perfect translation :P
DeleteRealist is use as an adjective to the Hero. it is not proper to plant "'s" on it
DeleteRealist is use as an adjective to the Hero. it is not proper to plant "'s" on it
DeleteYeah... "A Realist Hero's Kingdom Reconstruction Chronicle" is fine the way it is. I mean, it's a classic example of terrible Japanese story naming sense, but still... A Realist's Hero's wouldn't make any sense rofl.
Deletego back to school :-) hahahaaa ... If you want to correct what you think is wrong ... make sure you know how to use an adjective!!!!
DeleteThe "Realist" refers to the "Hero". That's why the word Hero has "'s" instead of the word "Realist". If you want to add "'s" to "Realist" then get rid of the word "Hero".
Deletein this case, realist is a adjective describing the hero. The hero is the subject, thus "realist hero's". If u want "realist's" then it will be "the heroic realist's kingdom reconstruction chronicle"
DeleteJuno is... She had a relation with three duke..
ReplyDeleteJuno = Gyna
DeleteThe Lorelei-descendant girl
Which chapter said this?
Deletemaybe the water duchess? Ecksel? you said lorelei didn't you?
DeleteThe problem is Ecksel herself cuts off family linkage after a certain point, or else it would seem like she's raising an army of family to takeover the country.
DeleteAnd if she claimed her as a blood linkage there, she'd have to for at least the same equivalent of other defendants.
Also, Juna's mother married outside or royalty so while that might be a lesser issue, I can see nobility saying, if you marry for love, the familiar line is cut. (Without spite or with spite is the question but it can be either)
Smart actually, but it could backfire.
Other world has talent! Food master found!
ReplyDeletedang, found this pretty late because i usually avoid LN with weird name. i should check every LN from now on
ReplyDeletethank you for translating this!!
There's a light novel with a long name that begins with "Death March" that you really should check out.
DeleteIf you want to see many novel that been translated, go to novelupdates(dot)com or baka-tsuki.
DeleteDon`t check Death March, MC get`s cock blocked by his own loli slaves and other annoying stuff :(
Deletehahaha.... i know i'm late at my reply, but i already using NU for some time, and have read death march, but right now stopped reading at volume 6 or 7 since somehow i can't get my interest going.
DeleteIf so, then try "Sono mono... Nochi ni..."
Delete(That person... Later on...)
Not gonna spoiled it but you must know that his guild card is weird... You'll see...
Thank you kami-sama! Dogeza!
ReplyDeleteMy malaise can only be relieved by reading more of this story.
For working on this translation you are the greatest!
Thank you kami-sama! Dogeza!
ReplyDeleteMy malaise can only be relieved by reading more of this story.
For working on this translation you are the greatest!
Did anyone look at the first arc's last two chapters and imagine Star Wars theme song in their head? No? Well, just me then :P
ReplyDeleteThis looks really good. I only hope he doesn't have a "Royal Harem" with multiple wifes. Seeing that in every light novel these days so its annoying lol
ReplyDeleteDo you know why this novel has disappeared from www.ncode.syosetu.com?
ReplyDeletethe author violate the TOS by numerous time parodying popular song.
DeleteHe moved (temporarily or permanently) to pixiv because of this...
So its gonna continue or will the author stop?
DeleteNope... he post the new chapter in pixiv...
Deletecan you give us the link? the one from that pixiv thing.
Deletehttp://www.pixiv.net/series.php?id=663140
DeleteThe author had churned out 4 chapters since his syosetsu account get terminated
i think i will tell my friends to stop parody - ing songs (at least) tell them to put anonymity and censoring their id....
Deletemy friends had ncode account and working on a novel (hiatus) and loves doing that (hopes he get banned or something too)
I checked out the pixiv page, and I can not find earlier chapter there. Does that means we have no access to those early chapter, or we just have to wait and it will appear later?
DeleteThe author said that it would be hard upload 100 or so chapter to Pixiv (I supposed it didn't support multiuploading), he will only upload the chapters summary. So for now assume the older chapters had disappear in the chaotic internet realm...
Deletewell. that's to be expected,i guess.
Deletethen again, how did you obtain those chapters?
I would really like to read ahead,i'm liking what I read so far.
oh,and i might be able to help a little if either you or larvyde needed help.
DeleteI use Google Cache before they cleaned the cache...
DeleteFor the older one use archive.org
nice,now i can read the older one from archive.org. though I think the author should make those older chapter accessible,otherwise he might not be able to gather new reader. I don't think a digest of older chapters that he post in pixiv is enough to lure in new readers.
Deleteoh my god my heart nearly stopped there.....
DeleteYo aku dateng buat nagih either ch 5c of realist kingdom or warera
ReplyDeletewon't you let yukkuri-danna work at his own pace?
Deletehe didn't work alone..ask the editors too..
i rarely visited this site due to my (junk-pile) works
Because it was removed from syosetsu and the trouble author-san got himself into, I wonder what are the chances of this actually getting published in the future...
ReplyDeleteIt is getting published...
DeleteThe first book will come out in 26 April.
I'll buy the book if only for ripping the illustration...
Btw is there forum for this wn that discuss and also give spoiler?
ReplyDeletehttp://forum.novelupdates.com/threads/genjitsushugisha-no-oukokukaizouki.3676
Deleteyou can go here i guess....
There is 1 on animesuki..., but havent been active aince jan
ReplyDeleteHmmm
ReplyDeleteIs it just me or the world/planet is abnormally small
Considering how fast they get around
I cant imagine the continent being big
At most it is as big as australia
Otherwise its as big as kalimantan in indonesia or hokaido in japan
Heck the distance from capital to the forest is about as big as sydney and surrounding, sydney airport is to northshore area lets say chatswood
DeleteWhich is a main train station in the north area
Based on the chapters...
Deletefrom the road construction site to the forest, it took 2 full days to march even if the military march day and night (fast forced march)... Assuming this means 4 km/hour and the marching last for 3 hours with 15 minutes breaks with no rest or sleep... Then that means about 188 km.
Assuming the horse galloping for 30 km/hour then it would take about 6 hours or half day, the figure given on the chapter.
Since Souma said the road construction site is closer to the forest than the capital and since Liecia arrived at (presumably) the next day after Souma finished with the rescue operation, then that means the Capital is about 200-240 km from the forest. So aboutthe distance of Sydney to Canberra... Interposing the world map to Australia map, the Continent seemed to about Australia sized...
Also... Elfrieden Kingdom was about the size of New South Wales + Victoria.
DeleteYeah
DeleteThen that still mean that planet is ridicolously small
Then again its about the size of pluto
DeleteEhh nothing says the planet isn`t earth like big, maybe there is a very big ocean or other continents...
DeleteOh yeah btw do you have microsoft word
ReplyDeleteIf so you can use it to do simple spelling check and grammar check using it, by pressing F7 key on your keyboard
Vvibulo tavvoran bosss
ReplyDeleteWkwkwk
Dont mind me i just like to type these sentence
~boss sendi
When is the next chapter coming out?
ReplyDeleteThe w8 is burning!Hahaha.
ReplyDeleteThe ln comes out
ReplyDeleteAnimesuki forum have it
And so does novelupdates page on this piece
Larvyde already translated her/his part.
ReplyDeletelarvyde finished chapter 11 part 1. Please finish up this volume when you can. I can't wait to start this volume q_q
ReplyDeleteSo.. it will end soon huh..
ReplyDeletetoo bad it's a really interesting story.
what are you talking about? This has 5 arcs and is ongoing. We're approaching the end of the second arc right now.
DeleteLavyrde already made chapter 10 and part 1 of 11
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ReplyDeleteWaiting the closing of second arc!!!!##
ReplyDeleteDo you know what?
ReplyDeleteThe Grand Chaos Empire is Ruled by Empress
Just saying.
Illustrations https://www.facebook.com/bersifromgremlin/posts/505226472996504
ReplyDeleteSo is arc 2 = book 2 in Amazon (i.e. the LN)?
ReplyDeleteThanks for the TL!
I like this a lot more than the other projects you're working on. Please focus on it.
ReplyDeleteNo new update? About Project Lorelei B?
ReplyDeleteThis feels like waiting for a game store to open to get the new game thats just out
ReplyDeleteEta 30min to 2 hr till yukuri san to wake up
ReplyDeleteNot posting
Dear Yukkuri-san, I am Koru, a translator from Valvrare Team in Vietnam. We translate English projects into Vietnamese to share with fellow fans. I am interest in this project and I wish to translate your works into Vietnamese. Can you allow me? I will include a link to your site in our post. Thank you very much.
ReplyDeleteSure.
DeleteDon't forget to leave the link here, so I can list you among the numerous others translator.
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DeleteHello Yukkuri san. This is the link to our project page as promised http://valvrareteam.com/genou.html . Thanks for your permission :D
DeleteJust reread the first chapter
ReplyDeleteEldrieden suppose to be small-medium country?
But it looks as though on the map it have land 2nd to the Empire a huge country
The USA is only a huge nation in land mass if you take population in to account both China and India out strip us by leaps and bounds. Land mass is only one of many way to denote the power/size of a nation, and often the least accurate.
DeleteSpeaking in term of medieval western nation
DeleteIt's mainly by mass tho
Also you would not call acountry which is 2nd in the continent as medium-small
Calling it a medium-sized nation would be pretty correct if the empire can be called a large one. However in the beginning of the story, the country was riddled with poverty, had a severe lack of food, was very corrupt and the military was incredibly weak. In addition to the country being located in the south (which in this world equates to being in a colder region) and the most likely small population considering the amount of territory owned, it could be said to be a small-medium nation.
DeleteHello, just finish reading your translation of this story. Both are really good, but when I'm looking for the raw I cannot find chapter 119-134. Can you please bother to share it with me?
ReplyDeleteHello, does anybody have the link to the illustrations?
ReplyDeleteThanks for your translation Yukkuri Sama Nya
ReplyDeleteHehe i already make a guess (Speculation) that souma definitely will let go Van city in exchange that Julius Jerk have to pay war reparation (same with how USA ask Japan Empire to pay war reparation after World War 2).
and then souma will incit the Citizen to rebel against Julius for take away the freedom from amidonia thus in the end julius failed to pay the war reparation and Souma will asked by the citizen to Become their Rule and Annex the entire Amidonian Principality if he do that the Empire will be unable to do anything since the Human Declaration Rule No.2 and No.3
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i really like the author's way to finish this problem even tought our MC still will lose if they went war aginst the Empire
Really wish i could read the raw but (that website always Blockade here thus i can't read it Nya.
Well whatever Nya at Pixiv only have the lastest raw thus even tought i read it i can't connect the dot between this translation chapter and the chapter at pixiv
I like this novel.
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ReplyDeleteYukkuri-san, larvyde-san already finished the Negotiations G・Retreat. It's time to add more to your burdens.
ReplyDeleteHahaha... just kidding. Just please don't laze around too much when you're free.
Yukkuri-san you update new chapter in next month right?
ReplyDeletePlease translate the next 4 chapters as larvyde has already finished up to the Negotiations G・Retreat..This novel is great and I look forward to reading the next chapters
ReplyDeleteIndeed. We humbly request oniisan. This novel really addicting...
ReplyDeleteYukkuri-san, any ETA for the next chapters?
ReplyDeletei hope a update will be next week that would be sweet ^_^
ReplyDeleteWait for editor working
ReplyDelete@.@ at least the chapter have been updated. Now just a lil bit longer for new chapter...
ReplyDeleteThank you very much.
ReplyDeletePlease keep up the good work.
thanks yukkuri-san ,, this love so awesome ... i hope you don't stop translating this novel wkwkwk ... #My_Wish and thanks for your hardwork .... (Y) :D
ReplyDeleteplease turn the remains chapter into PDF or epub. before you delete from site.
ReplyDeletetbh this translation is legal cause you translate something that's free except if you translate the LN which is not free. But i accept your decision and thanks for your hard work
ReplyDeleteCheck the other translator blog, someone send a pm to the editors and they said that you misunderstood them, you didn't need to delete the whole translation, just some chapters, at least please release some pdf's, I was reading vol 2 but now I'm unable to continue reading.
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ReplyDeleteAw, I just started reading this yesterday and was even enjoying it. Ah well, I guess now it's just a good memory.
ReplyDeleteReally ? Me too! ��
DeleteDear friends of Yukkuri, I would like to get the chapters that you translated from the novel "Genjitsushugi Yuusha no Oukoku Saikenki", especially from the first volume, since they are no longer online, there is some possibility of being uploaded or directed to read them, Thank you.
ReplyDeleteHis friend from Chile,
AO_ Belligerent
You can just browse the google cache for that.
DeleteHow?
Deletego to cachedviewdotcom, then paste the site you want to see, then click on the Google Web Cache. If it doesn't work click on the archivedotorg cache (you can select the date before the site was removed in archivedotorg). You can also browse the chapter 1-134 raws there.
DeleteYukkuri I'd like to ask, since the 1St volume now is available on j list, are you going to stop translating the series or continue while going to take down the next volume as the 2ND volume comes out?
ReplyDeleteWhopse I mean is j novel club
DeleteI will keep translating. Although Arc 3 LN is released this January, Arc 4 LN is still in April-May 2017, so there is much leeway to translate Arc 4.
DeleteStill waiting for Larvyde to post his chapters though...
Yukkuri Oniisan, thank you so much for your work, and also for respect for those who live in northern latitudes that was expressed once.
ReplyDeleteSuccess in new years!
Happy real new year's holidays to all - with frost and snow!
;)
С Новым Годом и Рождеством!
Is there anyone who have 1st arc epub beside the one that Yukkuri-Nii put on TOC? I tried to upload that plenty of times to googleplaybook but always error... 2nd arc fine though
ReplyDeleteLarvyde has finished chapter 6D
ReplyDeleteAnd we await in great anticipation! @.@
ReplyDeleteOk update time Yukkuri-san
ReplyDeleteRejoice people... I just send Epilogue A to my editor... Now working on the new arc...
DeleteThou hath answer our pray
DeleteMay God bless you.
Dafug ngomong apa lagi ane.
We wait so long now....
Deleteif you hate to wait then just read the raw, no one in this world prohibit you from read it.
Deletejust grateful someone already translate it for free.
I really don't want to bother Yukkuri-san(I know him busy with real life) but the addiction make me do and I can't read Japanese
DeleteAm I is a terrible person?
http://mtlcorner.blogspot.com/p/want-to-machine-translate.html
Deleteyou're not a terrible person but the way people nagging the Translator is annoying that's what i thought.
and almost everyone here want to read the NEW translated chapter
#wakuwaku @.@
ReplyDelete@.@
ReplyDeleteThe enlightment arch looks juicy.
ReplyDeleteOh my oh my I hope you don't get stress Yukkuri-san
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DeleteAkhirnya... Thank God it's here...
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ReplyDeleteI hope Yukkuri don't overdone everything, he have so much project to do just hope him stay healthy for he sake
ReplyDeletefor those who interested with Light Novel Illustration
ReplyDeleteVolume 1.
https://kuuderesuki.wordpress.com/2016/09/12/genjitsu-shugi-yuusha-no-oukoku-kaizouki-volume-1-illustrations/
Volume 2. Thank you Natsume01 for uploading those illustration
https://imgur.com/a/YYeHt
Volume 3. Thank you ooPeaToo for Uploading those illustration
https://imgur.com/a/DjuRM
I'm really disappointed about Roroa re-design
Deletethen are you expect her as a genius 7 years old that trying to look like adult you Lolicon.
Deleteew Disgusting.
I hope to see her more mean looking noble girl, this design is like villager pure girl
DeleteSeriously, I just disappointed not perverted
DeleteYou really mean to me men........
Thank you for the shares
Delete@Leon King: its clearly stated in this wn that roroa's character design is like a high schooler that try to look like an adult with twin tail and her personality is really those typical villain racoon or tanuki thought thus the Roroa in LN really represent Roroa in WN unlike Poncho and tomoe's character design in LN
Deleteand my previous comment about lolicon is a joke you know please just take it as a salt and don't take it in your heart.
DeleteRoroa chara illustration
Deletehttp://genjitsushugisha-no-oukokukaizouki.wikia.com/wiki/Roroa_Amidonia
I want mooore, faster!!! WAH WAH WAH!!
ReplyDeleteI do appreciate the work you guys are doing however.
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ReplyDeleteThank you Yukkuri Oniisan! These are a joy to read and an excellent way to procrastinate :)
ReplyDeleteThe volume 1 has been licensed, here I still have the epub of the vol 1
ReplyDeletehttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7GGLLxL6HEyT3hBNzZ4TXBfNDQ/view?usp=drivesdk
thx u so much u save me here.. i so desperate cause i,m new to this LN n surprised its got licensed XD
Deletedoes anybody know if there a differnt between the WN and LN ? here is the first chapter from volume 2 about sun tsu and in the release from the US relase it is missing o.o
ReplyDeleteYukkuri-san, Larvyde has already post the first 2 chapters of arc 4 now.
ReplyDeleteYes... Here come the exodus....
ReplyDeleteYukuri do you know where the chapters prior to the one posted at pixiv cause it confusing how he went to another country after going to the Dragon Mountain.
ReplyDeleteUse Archive.org (WaybackMachine)
DeleteAlready did but the latest I can get is after they battle storm (Arashi) cloud.
DeleteI have volume 04 ilustration here (if anyone interested)
ReplyDeletehttps://lndivision.wordpress.com/ilustrasi-genjitsushugisha-no-oukokukaizouki-vol-4/
Manga is out
ReplyDeletehttp://lhtranslation.com/manga-genjitsu-shugi-yuusha-no-oukoku-saikenki.html
for those who interested with Light Novel Illustration
ReplyDeleteVolume 1.
https://kuuderesuki.wordpress.com/2016/09/12/genjitsu-shugi-yuusha-no-oukoku-kaizouki-volume-1-illustrations/
Volume 2. Thank you Natsume01 for uploading those illustration
https://imgur.com/a/YYeHt
Volume 3. Thank you ooPeaToo for Uploading those illustration
https://imgur.com/a/DjuRM
Volume 4. Thank you ooPeaToo for Uploading those illustration
https://imgur.com/a/GzUyN
Yukkuri,
ReplyDeleteThe Realist kingdom pages aren't linked at the top navigation bar. was that intentional? I only recently discovered this series, even tho i had been reading most of the other works you have translated n hosted here. I ended up finding it through another web search and ended up here thinking "ive been here before... " but when i navigate away from the realist kingdom pages there's no way back except to back button or link through google searches. just thought i'd mention it!
I missed this novel...
ReplyDeleteYukkuri I have a question, is this version a WN or LN? Because if this is the WN version, I don't see any reason for you to delete it just because they translate the LN version, see volume 2 of Genjitsushugisha no Oukokukaizouki is slightly different in WN version? Also where can I see the chapters before the author put it to pixiv, its kind of confusing how Souma he went to other country after he go to Dragon Mountain.
ReplyDeleteWN.
DeleteThey asked me to. It's common courtesy to say yes to publisher. Don't want my blog disappear after all. I think it to makes new reader read their version first.
For necromancy, web.archive.org the only way......
Is larvy still in the middle of translating next chaps? or is he busy with irl stuff
DeleteCan't say......
DeleteHello could you put back the first volume if possible the obligation to copy the entire text on google translation for a person like me not the level of English is catastrophic make a story moretot iminteressent for the first chapter in any case just 8 hours Work for a simple chapter just read it. Make reading this story go from a fun to a corve especially as the rest of your work goes great on google trad for a Sunday reader like me. (Sorry if the message seems rude to you my gen with a dislexi or dipraxi I do not remember the term used by my speech therapist on the problem of having mastered their mother tongue I speak not even problem with foreign lag) And desolé unhooked your beautiful language
ReplyDeleteThe English publisher asked me to pull those down.
DeleteBut, if you know the right keyword or look closely on this page. You shall find it.
I'm a little bit confused here what is the difference between former original and current origianl?
ReplyDeleteI have been able to read up to the round table chapter, but I came a cross another chapter with something like the new city venetinova? I am not able to figure out where the this new chapter I found takes place... Someone help me with the confusion...
I ran into the manga adaptation and read the LN/WN translation here, but the more I read, the less I liked. So much of the plot makes no historical or logical sense that it's obviously forced. This is what is called "bad writing", something sadly too common in the LN/WN genre.
ReplyDeleteConsider the beginning: Elfrieden is a kingdom facing economic and political instability. So what does the King do when faced with someone with considerable talent and vision? Make him his right-hand man?
No, that would make too much sense, like a medieval society focusing on feeding itself above all else. Instead, the King abdicates his throne in favor of a literal nobody. How is this a problem? Let me count the ways:
1: The Kingdom is a Constitutional Monarchy, which means that handing over control of what is a branch of government to someone else cannot be done unilaterally, not even by the King. The National Assembly would have to officially ratify it, to say nothing of the power brokers (e.g. the Three Dukes) unofficially ratifying it. This should have been blindingly obvious to both the King and Souma.
2: The monarchy is patrilineal, which means that by unconditionally handing over his crown to an unrelated male, the King has effectively ended his dynasty. Obviously, this is never done lightly and the justification in the plot is beyond weak.
3: Transferring executive power to a complete stranger (i.e. outside the chain of command) is so unnatural that people will question the legitimacy of the new government at a time it can least afford it. This is not what a politically savvy King does. He and his advisers are utter morons.
All of these plot holes (among others) exist because the author wanted the MC to be in the limelight and be awesome. To make that happen the other characters had to act like retards, which in turn makes it harder to suspend disbelief and makes the story less engaging.
TLDR: The author needs to do his homework. Maybe get better feedback before releasing his draft.
Makes me wondering. How far has you read?
Delete1. Elfrieden Kingdom is Absolute Monarchy, since the National Assembly could only made petition or propose a law to the King which could be rejected. The NA didn't have any power of their own (which Souma noted when he was thinking about turning Elfrieden into a Republic after sufficient political savviness had permeated to some degree in the public to prevent the new republic from mobocracy)
Imagine them as French Kingdom's Estates General. So they are not something similar to English Parliament.
2. Monarchy can have agnatic-cognatic inheritance. In the absence of any male heir, the Right to the Throne is held by Elisa (Liscia's Mother), Albert matrilineally married into Elisa's family, so Albert became Efrieden for all intent or purpose. And so Albert reign in Elisa's name. The true ruler of Elfrieden is actually Elisa.
Then Albert have no male heir. Like it or not, Elfrieden Dynasty will not have any patrilinial descendant, since it need to continue through Liscia, who will inherit the Right to the Throne from her mother. Souma marrying Liscia actually serve to justify his position as King.
3. Yes, it create legitimacy question, hence why it create a friction with some of the Three Dukes. That's also the reason why Liscia was engaged to Souma, to increase his Legitimacy. Also Souma is a Hero, summoned from another world, a legendary existence, this also bestow him legitimacy to some degree.
Souma also questioned this. Why the King suddenly give his throne to him. But it will eventually revealed, the reason why the King easily surrender his throne to Souma. Have you read it?
Well... About it's hard for you to read...
Just take MST3K mantra: It's just a show; I should really just relax
I guess you've only read atleast 1/4 of the first novel since all of your questions will be answered if you have read until volume 3. all of it have it's backstory so it's not revealed in the first few chapters on the first novel.
DeleteWell, yukkuri oniisan already answered most of your questions though.
The author's justifications are weak, let me explain:
Delete1a: If it is in fact an Absolute Monarchy and not a Constitutional Monarchy, then the king is Sovereign - HE IS THE LAW. That makes his entire argument about "the law" to the Three Dukes, as if it was somehow separate from the King, complete BS.
1b: We've seen this in history time and again. If the King does something like this without consulting the NA even as a matter of form, then the NA would oppose the act on principle. Like we've seen in any government everywhere, that counts as an official declaration of non-cooperation with the new King. While it's true that the King could just ignore or dissolve the NA, we've already seen that that would just make things worse. The key point here is that the King and advisers (and author) should have known this and avoided this conflict entirely. They could try to patch things up, but making Souma king was entirely unnecessary.
2: If that's the case, Souma would have to change his name, no? Or does that happen when he's formally married? But again, this is an unnecessary problem - if they were so keen on making him legitimate King, marrying the Princess should have been required from the very beginning. Souma would then change his name and the subjects (NOT citizens) would recognize him for what he is - a member of the Royal House. Instead, this lapse precipitated a succession crisis that was should have been avoided. Remember, perception is everything in politics.
3: It's not just that Souma is not a member of the Royal House, he's a complete stranger. He may as well be a space alien. Royalty and Nobles marry for political reasons, typically to seal alliances. Everybody knows this and expects this. Doing otherwise in such a spectacular fashion is going to make people question the legitimacy of the government. Maybe in this fantasy world nobility get to marry whomever they want, but that is also pretty unrealistic in a world where nobles hold real power.
Still, i'll take a look at Chapter 3 again and see what exactly was bothering me.
2a: I mean MARRYING the princess on the spot, not merely engaged to her. The LN "Risou no Himo" handles this a bit more smoothly where the MC is Consort to the Queen. In that novel, pretty much everything i've been mentioning has been covered.
Delete1. NA is an advisory body. It don't have any legislative, executive nor judiciary power. It could only made petition. Even if they want to oppose the King, they have no real power nor any real army to back them. Common citizen are mostly on Souma's side, since he stole their attentions by his reforms.
DeleteAbout the Law... You mean Souma's explanation about 『King』, 『Law』, and 『Citizens』?
Though I was trying to find which political thoughts that the author use to write this part, it seems that the Author didn't seem to follow the European's model.
2. Souma is still a (temp) King as he like to say. So no, he isn't even crowned yet. If he adopted into Royal Family then he can't marry Liscia (step-sibling and all), there is a reason why King Albert engage Souma and Liscia together, other than for legitimacy.
3. His government legitimacy is challenged by the military and the nobles. The military and the nobles didn't help him at all. Hence why Souma could only use the manpower of the Royal Army which loyalty lies with the Royal Family (which Souma legitimacy borrowed from).
Also, there is a reason why Albert engaged Liscia and Souma.
Souma is a Hero. Hero marrying the Princess, is the fairytale norm though.
"About the Law... You mean Souma's explanation about 『King』, 『Law』, and 『Citizens』?"
DeleteYeah. In an absolute monarchy like Elfrieden, the King is sovreign, meaning that he makes the laws, but is not bound by them. Souma implies that he is so bound, which is a lie so transparent that the Three Dukes should have called him out on that immediately.
In an absolute monarchy, there are no such things as "citizens". There are only "subjects". It's an important distinction in that the people of Elfrieden (like the NA) have no say in making laws, they only obey them. Using them in a discussion of legal rights makes no sense and again, the Three Dukes should have pointed that out immediately.
That whole dialogue was a disaster. It's not a problem with translation, it's a problem with logic.
2: If Souma is a temp King (?) then the actual King (and advisors) are dumber than I thought. There are several problems:
2a: Without a "real" King on the throne, the legitimacy is unnecessarily questionable. All risk, no gains. People aren't going to feel confident about a ruler who has the option of walking out on the job, especially a nobody who isn't invested in Elfrieden.
3b: If the Queen is the de jure ruler, then that means the Queen has to countersign everything. She can delegate to a point, but she definitely has to be out in front "showing the flag" as it were, showing her subjects that she's Getting Things Done. Elfrieden is experiencing a crisis, remember?
2c: Adoption is in the case of agnatic succession. If the law demands a male heir, then adoption is the answer. If not, Liscia can be the Queen and marry a more politically appealing husband (Alliances, remember?
Elfrieden needs all the help it can get atm.) and Souma can fix things in the background.
3: "Hence why Souma could only use the manpower of the Royal Army which loyalty lies with the Royal Family (which Souma legitimacy borrowed from)."
And this is why this story makes me want to bang my head on my keyboard. Anyone with half a brain could have seen this coming. No one rules alone. Find those who hold power and get them on your side FIRST. This is the very heart of government, regardless of which kind.
1. Hmm? Souma indeed say: "the King could freely establish or abolish the Law, then the Law has no binding power to the King."
DeleteBy Souma limited by the Law, you mean when he talk to Castor: "Regardless whether you abide or not to me, after the war, you will be judged by the Law."
Since the Law came from the King, it seems to be sufficiently Absolute Monarchy though. Even if the citizen is referred as citizen and not subject.
2. Yes. That's why Souma had been questioning, why the King give the throne to him and pushing all the Kingly work to him.
2a. The people indeed are wary and not trusting him, but after several reform and his unusual approach (of mass media), earned him a place in the citizen.
2c. There was a reason why Souma need to be in the front and not at the background. (The King had tried this before by making Souma as his Prime Minister, it failed). The King like to see Souma and Liscia together, other than for legitimacy, it was his past regret.
3. The lack of talent for posts and uncooperativeness from the nobles and the Three Dukes troubles Souma to no end, he do complain about this, though. Still, from the beginning, no one is in his side, even Liscia at first opposed him. That's why he tried to win their trust.
3b: Yes, the Queen need to agree with before the King can do something. Though why the Queen didn't take center place, might because of her personality, she was someone who had survived the bloody throne succession, after all.
In official, even what Souma need to do right now is still formally need to obtain Liscia's tacit consent (Liscia inherited her mother's rights), so perhaps it could be said, Souma is de facto and Liscia is de jure.
Please remember, Souma is someone that suddenly received the King's throne from the King. So that he won't be delivered to Empire as "Hero", he was working his ass off to improve Elfrieden's economy situation, since if the economy improved then Elfrieden could just pay the Empire with money/goods and not a "Hero".
Yeah, I went back and double-checked. If the term "Consort" is being used correctly, then by definition the Monarchy is Agnatic. The queen has no power and Souma is now the founder of the Souma dynasty, regardless of whom he marries. The King's mother can't even become Regent because her child (the princess) cannot be heir.
ReplyDeleteIf Souma absolutely had to be King (I still remain unconvinced), it would make more sense if Souma was adopted into the Royal Family, changed his name (NOT "King Souma"), then given the throne. But even then, the necessary arrangements with the NA and Three Dukes should have been settled BEFOREHAND. The handover should have been a formality, and the King and advisers should have known this. Every government everywhere does this all the time when taking official action!
Edit: Not "King's mother", but *Queen Consort*
DeleteNope the Consort addition is from me, since it's kinda hard to differentiate the Japanese terms in its own.
DeleteThe original term is 正妃 (True Queen) and 傍妃 (Side Queen) to differentiate between Queens that can pass the throne inheritance and Queens that not. Both of them are referred as 王妃, which is just mean Queen Consort, where the power lies in the King.
Meanwhile, when Souma listened to Liscia explanation about her father and mother situation, he referred Liscia Mother as : 女王, which means Queen Regnant, not 王妃. Albert reigned under her name, so basically Albert is a King Consort.
In the current situation, the legitimate de jure power of Elfrieden Kingdom still lies behind Liscia's family side, though Souma is the de facto King.
Not every Monarchy need to be agnatic. Spain monarchy, Austria-Hungarian and various Holy Roman Empire states allows women to succeed at the extinction of all the male descendants in the male line.
From the story point of view, Souma hadn't been crowned yet, since his crowning will be happened when he married Liscia (which would happen on the latter arc).
So, we could say that though currently the throne in paper still belonged to Queen Regnant Elisa, she had transferred the royal prerogative to Souma through her heir presumptive Princess Liscia.
The NA don't have any legislative, executive nor judiciary power, so the Royal Family didn't have any obligation to consult with them or even seek their permission, since the NA is just an advisory body, not true parliament where the Royal Family need to report with.
And the Three Dukes independently acting, the Army and Air Force opposed, while the Navy obliged. Since the authority in Elfrieden was basically divided into four: Royal Family, Army, Air Force, and Navy, which balance each other.
Also, different world might have different official procedure in the handover of power, though I was wondering which country and what era of monarchy tradition that the author used for his story.
"In the current situation, the legitimate de jure power of Elfrieden Kingdom still lies behind Liscia's family side, though Souma is the de facto King."
DeleteI'm not saying that you're wrong, but that doesn't make any sense. Arrangements where a male King is married to multiple wives is almost always agnatic. I cant' think of any exceptions not involving a coup by one of the wives.
"Not every Monarchy need to be agnatic."
Yes, but in almost every case the exception proved the rule - that monarchies were typically agnatic. Maria Teresa was given the throne through a secret agreement between Emperors (Salic law specifically forbade this sort of thing, but when you're Emperor that doesn't matter anymore). Despite all that, her accsession still kicked off the War of Austrian Succession (it's in the name :D. Elizabeth I was excluded from succession in favor of another woman, Jane Grey. Again, special circumstances, extraodinary proclamations, legal loopholes. Surely there was a male relative of the Royal Household (not just the immediate family) available to carry on the line?
And again, if Liscia is in fact the presumptive heir, why bother making Souma king at all? Why not simply make him Consort to the Queen and let her be the face of the new government? Why even make him Consort? Why not Prime Minister, aka "Number One", Executive Officer, "Right-Hand Man"? There is ZERO reason to have Souma sitting on the Big Chair giving the orders. "Risou no Himo Seikatsu" isn't brilliant writing, but at least the author did his homework on politics.
"The NA don't have any legislative, executive nor judiciary power, so the Royal Family didn't have any obligation to consult with them or even seek their permission"
DeleteThat doesn't make the NA powerless. Perception is everything in politics, and for the King to make such important decisions without consulting the members of the NA is guaranteed to anger it.
Then the stonewalling and snubbing begins, which will only undermine the authority of the King. The King could retaliate within his rights by imprisoning or executing the ringleaders or dissolving the NA, but that would be playing right into their hands and setting the stage for revolution. This isn't idle speculation, this actually happens irl.
"And the Three Dukes independently acting"
Elfrieden is clearly a fuedal state, which means that power is based on an agreement between the Kings and nobles (aka Vassalage), military service for land or other wealth. Like with the NA, would a sane King be so stupid as to insult them by unilaterally deciding on their future boss? HELL, NO. And then Souma later decides that he's going to essentially take away their rights of vassalage by reducing their House troops? Is he INSANE? Why hasn't anyone told him that by revoking the terms of vassalage he is effectively disenfranchising them? Are the Three Dukes stupid or something? Do they want a civil war? Because that's how you get civil wars.
"Also, different world might have different official procedure in the handover of power"
Yes, but it doesn't fit how actual societies work, which is the problem. Claiming to be "realistic" is just insult upon injury. Fantasy races, magic and flushing toilets is fine as long as they act like actual people.
Yes, even flushing toilets that act like real people is fine.
DeleteAs far as I know in the story:
Delete1. the NA seems to be powerless.
2. The King had his reasons of the sudden king transfer, Souma want to centralize the army, each of the Three Dukes had their own thoughts and agenda, and a Civil War indeed happened. Though it was orchestrated by numerous parties for numerous reasons.
3. I don't claim it to be realistic, but in the absence of any detailed political explanation from the author we are limited by what the author had write. Whether or not you can accept what he write is your choice, all that I can do is trying rationalize it to some degree, which: perhaps they did it in a way that is different from ours.
In the end, my chief concerns lie in that:
DeleteA: Many of these problems are common to all governments and any politician would at least anticipate them. Instead, they're useless rank amateurs.
B: This is not like a succession crisis where the king is dead. The king is very much alive and has time to work these problems out. Yet he completely disappears from the plot and contributes nothing.
C: It is the author that claims "realism", that the MC is "realistic". I got no problem with your work, only the author's. These problems could have and should have been anticipated and resolved before they blew up, especially by a character we are told is so smart.
Contrary to what the author implies, Machiavelli's and Sun Tzu's ideas were nothing new. Anyone familiar with statescraft would immediately find their words familiar.
Their chief contribution was to codify these disparate ideas into a philosophical framework, much like how Japanese martial arts are divided into "-do" and "-jutsu".
And the Rest of the chapter ? will be you or the other one ?
ReplyDeleteso there will be no update anymore since get licensed ..ahh its seem i had to drop this until 2 years or more . if i still remember this novel i will back
ReplyDeleteBut I just release a chapter at 26 September ago...?
DeleteHello. Where can i read the complete vol. 1. Can anybody tell me. Its not complete on J Novel only part 1 & 2...
ReplyDeleteVol.1 Part3,4,5 and also the interludes and the epilogue not there ....
Please help
Same here. I can't read part 3 and onwards. Is it because the license? Can someone explain it to us? thanks
DeleteI have a link to the EPUB for Vol 1 here. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7GGLLxL6HEyT3hBNzZ4TXBfNDQ/view
DeleteAre the light novel story and the web novel story the same? I was thinking of buying the light novel if the story was really different. Is buying the light novel a waste of money if the web novel is the same?
ReplyDeleteNo they are not. I read it and almost every thing is the same the main difference is the translation style.
DeleteBila lagi sambunganya min...
ReplyDeleteVolume 5 illustration. Thanks to sparhawk1610.
ReplyDeletehttps://imgur.com/a/d4Stz
So... Yukkuri nii-san, I'm just asking though...
ReplyDeleteAre you still going to translate this WN considering J-Novel already released LN Vol 5 officialy? ._. The official release has reached the prologue of the Star-Dragon arc, which means the Enlightenment Arc already finished.
So did you actually drop this or not? Can you be clear?
ReplyDeleteAnyone have infomation about old raw link?
ReplyDeleteThe link above are no longer have cache link.
I need the content from "Star Dragon Arc".
Have you checked the pixiv link?
DeleteThe pixiv only have after that arc (chapter 135-end).
DeleteThe old raw cache link have content Chapter 1-134 which are missing.
Volume 6 illustration. Thanks to sparhawk1610
ReplyDeletehttps://imgur.com/a/NqVj0
Well, as expected Yuki-san started to 'pull' the volumes as J-Club continues to publish online while the hard copy of just Vol. 1 won't be here till September!
ReplyDeleteFor those who argue to just 'buy' the e-books, I still prefer hard copies! Even if this was an anime even better but one can dream...
this seems to be the raw starting on the Star-Dragon Arc chap 5 but can someone confirm please?
ReplyDeletehttps://mega.nz/#!zYw1TB4L!naN-ucRH0V8T5FKxl_8okF0Vxlfw9zmts3-5XswMaDc
Yup. Correct
Deletethanks yukkuri
DeleteI have a question - when do the pixiv raws start? (or when do you plan to catch up to the pixiv raws if you're not there yet?)
ReplyDeletePixiv RAW started at Arc 6, Chapter 134
DeleteCurrently I am in Arc 4, Chapter 106
cool, thanks.
DeleteNeed help...please..i want to continue reading this..but here is the problem. I started reading it and then stopped at Arc/volume 3(WN) it was a chapter where i think the translations were monthly so i stopped there for a while to let it end. it was somewhere related to refugees if i recall correctly. Now..i am not sure what to do. I mean i have Epubs of LN upto volume 5. i am not sure if i should continue WN or start LN from the start. Someone give me advice what to do.. reading from start can be done..but i would do that to LN..then again LNs wont get translated like WN is getting so i would get stuck again. :(...should i start. it seems Yukkuri started pumping the chapters weekly and in bulk of 2 to 4. not sure what to do.i can read WN from the start or start reading the LN from start then continue it with WN. i dont want to mess up with the story much
ReplyDeleteshould i just read LN..and skip WN?
ReplyDeleteHi I am new to the channel and I just caught up to date with the novel recently and I would like to say thank you for translating and good job, I would also like to ask if there is a regulate update schedule, thanks again
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